BDSM discussed in mainstream US media as ‘normal’ people?

Are we really being discussed on mainstream political programs in a realistic (or at least partly realistic) way? Are we humans, to them?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57epuHzRpIY
I liked the discussion, mostly, but I could have done without the raised eyebrows, puerile jokes and, at the end, the usual ‘caveats’ that made us another ‘them’ and not ‘us’. But still, this is somewhat exciting…
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